Upgrades. For $169, you’re not likely to find another similar component built to such exacting standards; one wonders if Schiit runs in the red or is simply a money-laundering front for a Bond film Megalomaniac. This unit was purchased from Schiit.com not long ago and presents as new. And it's better built than any $1,500 tube preamp I'm aware of. As others have mentioned, the right side gain tubes have the most influence on sound. will_f, Mar 28, 2020 #222 . Schiit nailed it with this little pre. Comes with original box stock tungsol tube, unused remote control and power cable. Schiit supplied me with four 6SN7 vacuum tubes. masama Seeker Of Truth. Schwag. Posts: 1. Schiit Freya Impressions and Tube Rolling Thread Home. Tube-rolling with the Vali 2 was a fun little experiment, and for audiophiles looking to get into this little micro-addiction this is a very easy place to start. Bifrost Multibit $250. But the Schiit Vali 2 tube headphone amp really made my jaw drop, and I realized that tubes can really sound amazing. True Multibit™ Card $250. Freya's tube gain stage is a totally different animal. I may try a 1950s RCA 6SN7GTB. Must read. I am deciding more on the Freya + as opposed to the Saga + as the tube mode seems to be better in the Freya + vs Saga + as per some of the reviews I have researched on. I "rolled" the tube in Schiit Saga and posted the results in a new article: ... be-rolling-of-schiit-saga-pre-amplifier.6522/ Amir Founder, Audio Science Review Founder, Madrona Digital Contributing Editor, Widescreen Review Magazine Click for My Technical Background Master List of Audio Reviews. Swapping between the passive and active modes produces almost no difference to my ears. I'm expanding my current 2-channel setup, including an OG Saga, run in tube buffer mode, to include a home theater AVR. This is a nice even tube that works well in stock situations, insofar it gives one a reference sound once some burn-in has occurred. Up for sale is Schiit Saga Tube preamp in a near new condition. Well, the stock tube I received from Schiit with the Saga, produced some crackling sounds and noise (in both channels) which generally means the tube is at the end of its life.. Tube Rolling of Schiit Saga Pre-amplifier. High-end new production vs Vintage new old stock 6SN7 tubes, can you hear a difference? OP . Jinxy245 likes this. Moreover, in my stereo system i think it actually sounds worse in the chain. T-Shirt … Saga is less expensive and only features unbalanced connections. Jan 31, 2017 at 6:20 PM. Headphone Amps (full-size) ... Also Bimby>Loki>Saga>Amp Box RS>Polk speakers in kitchen. This whole experience rolling tubes in the Saga was reminiscent of when I was rolling tubes in my Jolida JD100 tube cd player years ago. Personally, I'm not going to spend any time tube rolling. Equipment Forums. What should I Get, and Why?Patreon : https://patreon.com/JoshuaValourWant to send me something? I'm running the stock 6SN7 JJ New Production tube. Schiit Mjolnir 2: 6BZ7 (standard tubes) Schiit Saga / Lyr 3: 1 x 6SN7 (standard tubes) Schiit Freya : 4 x 6SN7 (standard tubes) I'd like to try tube rolling (vintage?) I'm guessing you're using it with the Freya, so that's a tube pre and a tube amp? The Freya offers listeners three choices of output modes, passive, JFET buffer, and tube gain. Monad AK Subscriber Subscriber. Schiit Replacement Tubes. Phono. Specialty Products. The Saga was enough of a win for me that I was willing to consider the Freya. Yggdrasil GS $1599. Yggdrasil Analog 2 $650. Post #199 of 2,091 Ghosthouse 100+ Head-Fier. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. Accessories. Feb 3, 2019 #21. If you really want to go down a rabbit hole on Freya tube rolling, this is your thread: Schiit Freya Impressions and Tube Rolling Thread I also have the Freya+. Saga + $399. The Freya+ with the design changes noted above, only commands a $100 premium over the original Freya, which is amazing. The tube gain is also noticeably quieter which is more evident across sensitive audio gear; a complaint which the old Freya had often received. 100+ Head-Fier. G. gvl Major Contributor. Forums. Attached Files: upload_2019-2-1_13-30-5.png File size: 341.9 KB Views: 28. The tube-rolling in which one may partake with this device means you can get just as silly and mental as the Moffatt/Stoddard squad did when they made this little dude! From the Schiit site news section; In addition, Schiit added a new tube option for Saga and Freya—new production Tung-Sol brand 6SN7s. I will possibly use the Schiit SYS to switch between music via node 2i and Freya + and movies with the … It's a cool looking tube. I think I prefer the active mode, it's almost unnoticeably louder () and slightly warmer? Ha, well at least tube rolling is somewhat affordable with the Saga. Likes: Headphonaholic, Hugo9000, Veri and 2 others . HiFiJeff, Feb 1, 2019 #15. When I'm not running it with a tube preamp, I'm using it with a Schiit Saga. Maybe this is the trade off for how inexpensive it is. … … Joined Apr 6, 2015 Posts … Enlarge Image. I like the sound I'm getting from the Saga as-is. Review: Schiit Saga, Part I HiFi Basics V: Transparency, and Neutrality - How do you Judge and How Much do you Want? The Vali 2 comes stock with an NOS 6BZ7 tube. DACs: Schiit Bifrost 2, Chord Mojo, FiiO BTR5, Apple Lightning Dongle, AK SP2000 DAC Chips: AD 5781 R2R, Xilinx 7 FPGA, ESS 9218p, Cirrus Logic for Apple, AK4499EQ Preamp/Speakers/HP: Schiit Saga OG 5692 tube, Yamaha HS7+HS8, CA Andromeda, CA Comet, CA Vega Share This Post post-13223779. I have two systems in my house. Only kidding. Thread starter amirm; Start date Jan 31, 2019; Prev. View entire discussion. Photos: Edited September 14, 2020 by :) Go Away (: Link to post Share on other sites. Thanks! But so far so good with this Saga. I replaced it with another Sovtek 6SN7GT NOS tube and the problem was solved. I tend to prefer the tube buffer. I've been dragged kicking and screaming into tube based gear! Tubes for Schiit Saga. Usually I listen to changes in my system for a week or so and then switch back. The Saga sounds brillant. to see if it changes the sound in a more noticeable way. I've been able to borrow a Saga with the stock tube from someone locally and to be honest I cannot hear a difference between active tube and passive mode in my headphone rig or stereo setup. Those who aren't interested in balanced in/outputs should consider the Schiit Saga, a modded version of the Sega Genesis game console. The tube that came with my preamp is incredibly neutral. Just enough tube action to keep me hooked and yes, rolling tubes does change the sound. Feb 3, 2019 #21. amirm said: Maybe they were bad. The Freya seems to be very good at tube rolling, but it is also very sensitive to certain tubes. amirm Founder/Admin. It is very much dependent on tubes. The same with certain NOS tubes like a later generation Sylvania. Or trade for the K-bas'? I highly recommend it for the Schiit Saga. Sol $799. Equipment Forums. But I have found the characteristics ascribed to various 6Sn7s in the old Freya to be valid as to the Freya+. jl35 01-03-2021 10:35pm... 4 posts total. The Schiit Freya+ gets our highest recommendation. McIntosh MC275 VI tube amps (two) McIntosh MT5 Turntable Dynavector DV-20x2L moving coil cartridge Mcintosh MCLK 12 Clock VTA SP-14 preamp Thorens TD-316 TT Grado Silver1 Cartridge Emotiva XPS-1 Phono preamp Sennheiser HD-600 Headphones Dynaudio Gemini speakers PBN Montana EPS speakers Magnepan 3.6/R speakers Magnepan DWM bass module Mac Mini. Current Gear: Pi2AES -> Schiit Bifrost 2 ->Schiit Saga S -> Schiit Lyr 3 or Woo Audio WA6-SE ——->Focal Clear, Aeon Flow Closed, HD6XX, ZMF Auteur, ZMF VC Fantasy gear: Nothing on the horizon. SYS is just frankly a lot better to my ear than Saga (in passive or tube mode) and Freya (in passive or JFET mode). Gungnir Multibit $500. Wall-Warts $10. Posted by Greg Cz (A) on February 14, 2017 at 13:21:54 In Reply to: REVIEW: Schiit Audio Saga Preamplifier (Tube) posted by Greg Cz on December 8, 2016 at 17:20:51: There is a temptation to be witty on the name, Schiit and rolling, but there is more in tube rolling with the Saga. TRRS Kit $5. These are well known, highly regarded tubes and worked extremely well in the Freya. Remote Controls $18. Mani $129. Go. Schiit Freya Impressions and Tube Rolling Thread Home. If you think people who say they can hear differences in tubes are full of it, this video may make you a believer. Every different tube rolled was a minimal difference in sound barely detectable but when I rolled in the right tube (which also happened to be a Mullard) it just clicked and I knew that was the right tube. Selling as I am simplifying my setup to one integrated amp box for my digital needs. In my headphone system, I cannot say I would be able to reliably tell when the Saga is in the chain or not. PYST Cables $20. For $899 you get a triple mode line stage, with a 128 stepped attenuator, rarely used but beautiful sounding 6SN7 tubes (new production Tung Sols to boot) and a nice metal remote control. You have to listen very closely to spot a difference between the passive and active modes, though the active mode is very slightly smoother, though with no loss of highs or dynamics. Ideally, I want to send the Front L/R pre-out through an input on the Saga, so I can continue to use my current setup as-is for everything but movies and games. The RCA "Grey Glass" are particularly noisy for example. Schiit has a real knack for making serious audiophile gear that's also affordable. Messages: 2,402 Location: Colorado Springs . Forums. Careful with all the tube rolling, as it is the crack of audio LOL You can get sucked into the vortex of minuscules and never get out. Tube Rolling of Schiit Saga Pre-amplifier. These are spare tubes or for tube rolling with Schiit Audio Products. HiFiJeff Super Member. Personally I started to worry about having to pull tubes by the glass bottle from the Saga, because of the force applied to the tube as well as to the Saga's PCB. It's a passive preamp with the option of a tube buffer. The Saga with this tube sounds better than anything I've tried in terms of pre-amplification (passive or solid state or other tubes) in my current (and previous) system(s) so far. Modern Line Level Signals theoretically only need attenuation and not gain … Schiit Lyr: 6BZ7 (standard tubes) Schiit Valhalla: Replacement tube's ONLY. Customers had been asking for a new-production option, and the Tung-Sol brand tubes tested the best in a comparison of new 6SN7s. Freya + $899. Joined Mar 16, 2018 Messages 2,287 Likes 2,190 Location SoCal. “This is … Robie likes this. The standard tubes that come with it work well, but are a little noisy. Phono Card $150. Now I can gently remove a tube by inserting and levering a … Tubes $10. HiFiJeff, Feb 1, 2019 #14. Ghosthouse. I much prefer balanced in/outputs for their terrific noise rejection. Jotunheim R $799. Thanks. Letter from NYC (64) 2017 (3): Tube Buffers and Transparency Addendum (10/28/17): Part II has been published and contains extensive further testing and system matching (to great effect). As suggested earlier by others, here's a tip for those rolling tubes with the Saga/Freya. Just sit back and enjoy at times. 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